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senior. the one they got wrong was 2004. kids picked kerry, which is interesting, because that's the only other time we had a candidate just outright say no, i won't do it. >> so it's too -- and we're going to -- >> not for me. we have worked very hard to put together a show. in which governor romney's views are fairly and equally represented, along with president obama's. but we have also held the door open i said, any time between now and october 14th at midnight, any place you say, governor romney, we'll be there. >> all right. we're going to be holding our breath until october 14th at midnight. linda ellerbee gets tonight's "last word." thanks, linda. "the ed show" is up next. good evening, americans, and welcome to the ed show live from
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miami, florida. 28 days until the 2012 election. the polls are tightening and the youth vote in the state of florida could be the savior for the president in this state. this is the ed show, let's get to work. >> we need you fired up. i love you back, but we need your help. >> you have to scratch your head, the president spends the last week talking about saving big burg. >> eugene robinson on the state of the race. another billionaire ceo is threatening his employees to vote romney or else. >> i am the founder and ceo of the largest time share company in the world. >> you won't believe this story. paul ryan pulls the plug on a republican talking point. governor brian schweitzer. >> why democrats need to take a
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page from the wisdom of george w. bush, my commentary. >> fool me once, shame on you. you can't get fooled again. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. the 2012 election looks like it's going to go down to the wire. if you have a seat belt, put it on. it's going to be a dandy. the polls are tightening once again. it's a pretty clear reaction to last week's debate. the real clear politics average of all polls show mitt romney taking a .7% lead on president obama. the race was this tight a month ago. right after the republican national convention and right before the democratic national convention. we have been here before. the race has followed this pattern for awhile. when mitt romney makes gain, the
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polls tend to show the candidates tied. but if you listen to right-wingers like ann colter, this race is already over. >> i think it is over. and the reason i think it's over -- of course, i thought it was over last week and the week before and the week before. romney is going to win. the reason he's going to win is this was the most-watched debate since 1980 when ronald reagan ran against carter and there was only one debate that year. >> fox news is pulling out all the stops. to make it look like the race has swung in favor of mitt romney. check out the electoral prediction map fox trotted out today. look at the red states. they gave mitt romney solid democratic states like new mexico and pennsylvania. really? polls should be a snapshot of the current state of the race and there's no doubt mitt romney is benefitting from his debate performance last week. but over "the new york times," the forecast shows president obama still holds a 70% chance of winning the election. the percentage is back in line with the state of the race
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before the political conventions. president obama made some gains after the dnc. so the race is back to where it was in august. eight years ago today, cnn poll after the first presidential poll put john kerry on top of george bush by one percentage point, 49-48. the race is close. this should surprise no one in america. every vote is going to count. there's been bipartisan agreement about a close race for months. >> this race, as we say in the south, it's as tight as a tick on a dog and it's going to stay that way until november. >> let's be clear, this thing is still tight as a tick, and nothing is set in concrete. >> this is a very tight race. we've always believed that there's very little elasticity in the election. >> when a race is this close, a small number of states become pretty dog gone important. no state is more important than the state of ohio with 18
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electoral votes. three ohio polls today showed different results. one put mitt romney up by one point, another had president obama up by a point. a third had president obama up by four points. it is a vital state and the candidates are going to have to fight for it hard. president obama held his 17th ohio campaign rally this evening. today is the last day of voter registration in the buckeye state and the president pushed that message. >> ohio, i'm asking you for your vote. if you're willing to stand with me and work with me, knock on some doors and make some phone calls for me, we'll win franklin county again. we'll win ohio again. we'll win this election again. we'll finish what we started and we'll remind the world why the united states of america is the greatest nation on earth. >> mitt romney knows his chances of winning the presidency are slim without ohio, regardless of what the national polls say. romney scheduled multiple events in the state of ohio over the next several days as well as events in other swing states.
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he was in iowa today making the hard sell for voters to abandon president obama. >> i want to ask you for a commitment. that's for you to find one person who voted for barack obama last time and convince him to come join our team. maybe find more than one. i need your help to do that. >> romney is striking while the iron is hot. he's continuing to jab president obama in his stump speech. >> these are tough times with serious issues. so you have to scratch your head when the president spends the last week talking about saving big bird. >> this new aggressiveness was influenced by those closest to home. politico reports, romney's sons have taken a more creative role in crafting his campaign since before the debate. josh romney showed the aggressive romney spirit today when he implied president obama was a liar. >> we'd say the same lie over
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and over. my dad learned then not to believe it. we didn't go to any of the formal debate preparation, we did the hard stuff. as a father he learned how to debate. an obstinate child. >> the romney campaign's aggression highlights president obama's lack of aggression during the last debate. i spoke with obama supporters in florida today who were still puzzled why the president just didn't take it to romney on a number of issues and do it with force. he has good reason to do so. there will be other opportunities. the hidden 47% video, those comments still are a huge weakness for mitt romney. pollsters gave advice to the obama team about how voters perceived the video. the 47% critique is very important because it says that romney doesn't understand their lives. obama needs to show that he understands what they're going through.
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they're looking for him to offer things that will impact their lives. mitt romney still has a difficult time answering for his comments. he was pressed about them today on cnn. >> i think it's always a perilous course for a candidate to start talking about the mathematics of an election. my campaign is talking about how to get 100% of the americans to have a more bright and prosperous future. >> with the race neck and neck, all eyes turned to the presidential debate on thursday night. joe biden has the opportunity to tell the truth. what mitt romney will do to the middle class in this country. this may not be a make or break moment for the president and his campaign, but have you to agree that it is a chance for the vice president of the united states to change the tone and the focus of this campaign. not a game-changer, but a course correction. the people that i spoke with on friday in ohio were disappointed in the president's debate performance. it's ironic that the very same
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attitude was portrayed to me here on two different locations -- at memorial university, florida memorial university today and also florida international university. people are puzzled why the president didn't come out strong. it could have been a knockout punch. they were expecting more. comments came to me like we're out fighting for the president, fighting for every vote, and the other night it didn't look like he was fighting for us. what does this mean? this means that every word is going to be dissected. this means that every stump speech is going to be recorded and reviewed over and over again. there means the american people are digesting who wants to be president of the united states and who wants to lead. the president is great on the stump, but to miss an opportunity with that kind of platform will be viewed as a gross mistake. get your cell phones out. tonight's question, who has the advantage in the race right now? text a for president obama and b for mitt romney to 622639. you can always go to our blog at
8:10 pm we'll bring you the results later on in the show. i'm joined by eugene robinson, msnbc analyst and columnist for "the washington post." also with us tonight is joan walsh, editor at large for and author of the book "what's the matter with white people?" eugene, you first. this poll shifting, this pickup by mitt romney, is this all a result of what happened last week in the debate? >> basically, yes. look, it seems to be significant enough shift that you have to figure there was some sort of pent up demand behind it. there must have been some percentage of people who were wondering -- who were waivering and who wondered if -- maybe didn't think mitt romney had it in him, and he proved to them, at least to their satisfaction
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during the debate, that he did. he kind of made himself eligible to be president for more people than he was eligible before. and that's a significant move in this race. >> joan, what's your calculation on what's unfolding here? liberals think the sky is falling. are they right to be worried at this point? >> they are right to be worried. we knew this was always going to be a close race. sadly, this country is really divided. not quite down the middle. i think our side has more, but it's very close. and i agree with gene. the mitt romney that was introduced to 58 million voters the other night, was a man we've never seen before. he was warm, he was gracious, he had an ease about him, he was moderate, he didn't scare people, and i think he brought waivering republicans back into the fold and gave a rational for his candidacy. people were pulling their hair out in the week before.
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i like the idea of the pentup demand, because people wanted to believe again. i think president obama and joe biden, of course, can correct this. i think it's very correctable. >> it's all about motivation. you want to see your guy out there going after it, never backing down, always being on the forefront of the issues and never sidestepping. this was just such a missed opportunity. now the race is tight. and many liberals in this country think it shouldn't be like this right now, but it is. should the focus be on more than ohio? or is ohio the ball game right now? >> ohio is a big part of the ball game, but you look at today's polls, the focus has to be on more than ohio. there are other states where president obama was ahead where he's got to hold that lead now. and so he can't spend the whole time in ohio. but there are two issues, and you identified the other one.
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one is firing up the base. mitt romney fired up his base during the debate and president obama did not. the other issue is the waiverers who were still undecided or who are persuadable and romney did a better job persuading during the debate than president obama did. i agree with joan. this is not the end of the world. this is not something that's uncorrectable. but it needs to be corrected. >> well, it could start with a good debate by joe biden coming up on thursday night. joan, how important is it? >> it's really important. i think what he needs to do is tie paul ryan around mitt romney's neck like a mill stone. paul ryan's policies are deadly unpopular and he's basically been allowed to kind of get away with it and paper over what he believes and what mitt romney believes. but paul ryan is just a terrible deficit for the ticket. the other thing is it is a base election.
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when we get to this point when we're looking at likely voters, versus registered voters, our voters are less likely to turn out. they're the young, the disadvantaged, they're the new citizens that haven't made a habit of voting. if we see an electorate like in 2008, barack obama wins. if we saw the one from 2010, he loses. so we talk about the independent swing voters all the time but i really think this is coming back down to the base for both sides. >> i think the obama team has been brilliant on the basics throughout all of this. but one of the basics they can't get away from is the 47% video. i mean, that is who mitt romney is, and i don't think they can allow him to escape these comments. he said these comments behind closed doors to people he needed their support and money and it's just a condemnation of who he is. and then, of course, he supports the ryan plan. great to have both of you with us tonight.
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eugene robinson, and joan walsh, two of the best. no question about it. thanks for being on "the ed show." remember to answer tonight's question. share your thoughts on twitter @edshow. we always want to know what you think. coming up, today was the final day to register voters in some key swing states. annette taddeo will join me soon on this program to talk about the youth vote. that could be the key for president obama here in the state of florida. we're right back. stay with us. jill and her moud a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivity and weak enamel. conditions people over 50 experience. crest pro-health for life. so jill can keep living the good life. crest. life opens up when you do. so jill can keep living the good life. [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood
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young voters could be the key to a victory for president obama. annette taddeo joins me to discuss the youth vote and enthusiasm leading up to this election. just where is it? paul ryan gets honest on gun laws while the national rifle association continues to spread lies about the president's policies. we'll have all the details. and as the polls shift after last week's debate, will we get
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to them. >> i just feel like students should all get out here and go and see what each candidate has to say and really know what they are voting for because this plays a big part in our lives. >> students have are having a hard time paying for school so voting is important for education purposes. >> i don't think cutting taxes or protecting the wealthy is the way to go. >> i was lucky enough to find a job at the beginning of the summer, but it's really difficult to find a job when you're a college student. >> interesting. those students were in line to get tickets for president obama's speech later this week at the university of miami. in 2008, senator obama beat senator john mccain by 2 to 1 in the margin in the youth vote in this country. it's crucial for the president to get similar numbers this time around if he's going to win the state of florida. of course, to vote they must be registered and voter registration drives have been underway for months. according to statistics from the florida secretary of state,
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democrats have 500,000 more registered voters than republicans. now, there are 2.8 million people registered as independents or with a third party. the numbers are interesting, but it means nothing if there's no emotional component that will motivate them to do it. this is why the debates are so important in today's information culture. there must be a real emotional appeal by president obama if he's to succeed in getting these voters out to the polls. the best registration drive imaginable will not do a thing if there isn't this gut feeling that these young folks must get out and vote because they can make a difference. let's turn to annette taddeo, member of the democratic party and one of the leaders in this portion of florida. the youth vote, i don't want to oversell it, but everywhere i go today down here, that's all people are talking about. are the young people going to engage? >> i think so.
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we have seen great numbers in registration numbers. i will tell you that i have a feeling that although today was the last day in the next few days we'll see the reports from the obama campaign as to their registration numbers and you'll be shocked. they have registered an unbelievable amount of people in the state of florida. i think that everybody is going to be pleasantly surprised. and now the next step is to get every one of those young voters to vote. >> did the debate have an effect on their attitude? >> you know, i don't know that many of them were actually watching it. maybe a little bit, but i will tell you most of those, you were talking about the independent registered voters. most of those independent registered voters are hispanics, are kids that don't know whether to go on the democratic or the republican side. we have found that a lot of hispanics, you were at florida international university where a lot of the students are hispanic, they don't identify with either party.
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we have not done a good job as democrats of letting them know what it means to be a democrat. >> the hispanic vote is key to president obama's success here in florida. you're saying that the kids don't seem to be party pickers. it's going to come down to the candidate? >> absolutely. it's not just the kids. overall, the reason why the independents are winning in florida is because they are picking the independent party. democrats are still winning over republicans, i want to be clear. however, independents are winning because they just don't understand one party over the other. however, the independents vote democratic. they lean democratic. >> here's the spanish language ad that president obama has taken out that's playing in florida. very interesting. here it is. [ speaking in foreign language ]
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[ speaking in foreign language ] >> how effective is that? >> i think it's very effective. i tell you, i usually don't get inspired by ads. but that one inspired me. not only because he's speaking spanish, which is unprecedented. i don't think we've ever seen a president do that. but i will tell you, it's the ad itself. the fact that he says it shows how he really feels about dreamers. how he really feels that no dream is unattainable in this country. >> let's talk about the kids and the dream act and them stepping out, identifying what their status is. are they afraid to do it? >> with the new plan that obama
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put into effect, only 87,000 of them have actually applied for deferred action, which is the deferred action that the president put in place. >> so they're afraid that president obama might lose and mitt romney, they don't know where he stands? >> yes. i want to put the numbers in context. 1.7 million of them is estimated qualify for the deferred action. only 87,000 have applied. and it is believed that it is because they are afraid that if romney wins, he will then not keep this program in place and worse, they will then be on the record. they are afraid. >> and it's a trust issue. annette taddeo, thank you for joining us. >> of course. thank you. coming up, paul ryan's moment of truth. find out what he said and why the gun lobby won't be happy about it. and the nuns are back on the bus. the group kicks off another leg of their anti-poverty tour.
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welcome back to "the ed show." live from miami tonight, thanks for watching. in the past few months we reported on paul ryan's lies about medicare, the budget and auto rescue are right in there as well. but we have good news tonight. paul ryan had an honest moment. he finally managed to tell the truth about gun control in america. ryan gave his stunning answer about guns during this interview with a reporter in flint, michigan, yesterday. the interview ended abruptly. it was awkward and the video went viral. but here is the most important part, i think. the reporter asked the vice presidential candidate if guns are a problem in this country. here's paul ryan defending
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president obama. >> no. if you take a look at the gun laws, i don't think even president obama is proposing more gun laws. we have good gun laws. we have to make sure we enforce our laws. >> oops. not supposed to say that. the president is not proposing any new gun laws. in fact, the president has been widely criticized for expanding gun rights to allow guns in national parks and amtrak trains. ryan usually lies about the president's intentions. he told outdoor life, the president's history and his party lead me to be concerned about what he would be like in a second term. ryan's been selling the nra's conspiracy theory for years. he happily campaigns with people like wayne lappier, who thinks the president is one election away from shutting down every
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gun shop and range in this country. >> if president obama is reelected, we'll see an anti-freedom rampage in this country like we have never seen before. >> a rampage. the nra is repeating this story in their new campaign ad. they are spending more than $1 million on air time. the ad is running in four swing states. here in florida, ohio, virginia, and wisconsin. there have been mass shootings in all four of those states recently. wisconsin is still reeling from the temple shooting in august. meanwhile, the nra says the president of the united states hasn't taken away guns because he's waiting until his second term, and that's when he's going to do it? it will be interesting to see if voters believe this fairy tale. by the admission of the vice presidential candidate for the republicans, barack obama has not offered up any new gun legislation. but it cuts to the cultural
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issues of gays, guns and god in the heartland in america. i'm joined by montana governor brian schweitzer. good to have you with us. you've heard the story before. how damaging is it and how many holes does it shoot, ironically, into the conversation about the president of the united states being a gun grabber when you have paul ryan saying, well, wait a minute, he hasn't brought forth any new legislation. or proposed it. what do you make of this? >> it was a slip up on his part. the gun advocates have been saying, he's going to take your guns. that's why talk to any gun dealer in america, they have had the best three and a half years they have had since clinton was in the white house when they used to say that about him as well. you can't get ammo anymore because gun dealers get their boxes of ammo in and people rush in there and get it because they have signs and salesmen who are saying, this president is going to take away your guns and your
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ammo tomorrow. no, next week. but he's going to take them away. so the gun dealers in america are having banner sales every day of the week because tomorrow, next week, next month, next term, he's going to take away your guns. >> but the nra is very powerful, they're a powerful lobby and they have a lot of money to spend. they're targeting these swing states. will they be effective? >> we don't hear much from the nra until it's election year. then they are advocating for republicans. sometimes you wonder if they shouldn't be called the national republican advocates. >> is president obama going to get rid of the second amendment if he wins a second term on november 6th? >> no. that ain't going to happen. you can count on it. if he was going to do it, he would have done it during the first three and a half years. and, of course, for eight years they said clinton was going to do it, he didn't. we have responsible gun owners all over america. we will enforce the laws we have and president obama is not going to take your ammo away and not your gun away. >> in the recall election in wisconsin, the nra really went
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after tom barrett saying he was going to take away their guns and he had a bad record. why is it in rural america that firearms becomes an issue down the stretch? it looks like it's going to rear its ugly head again. >> folks like having guns. not because they are holding up liquor stores. i own a number of guns. ed, you own guns, i'm sure. we like to hunt and have guns and target practice. and we're not looking at attacking anybody. but the bottom line is the attack is by the republicans and their advocates at the nra who are trying to say every time there's a democrat running for office we're going to take away their guns. if we're going to do that, maybe during the last 100 years we would, but we haven't. we're not going to in the future. we respect the amendment rights. we respect the constitution and you'll keep your guns. if you want to go buy more ammo and more guns and yammer that someone is going to take away your guns, and you want to yammer that someone's going to take away your guns, that's fine.
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if that's a reason to buy another gun, do it. but i don't think president obama has proposed to do anything except to expand guns in national parks. >> didn't mitt romney sign a permanent assault weapons ban while he was governor of massachusetts? why doesn't that matter? >> not only that, he raised fees on guns. he raised tuition at the fastest rate in the country. he raised taxes. and when he left office in massachusetts, people somehow forgot he left the people in massachusetts with the largest debt per capita in america. now he says he's going to do good with money by cutting taxes by 20% and spending $2 trillion more on the military and $716 billion, even more than ryan or obama proposed, in medicare. i don't know how he does his math, but somebody ought to buy him a $2 calculator. >> governor schweitzer, great to have you with us. thanks so much. there's a lot more coming up in the next half hour on "the ed
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show." stay with us. the best thing to help prevent crime in cities is to bring opportunity in the inner cities. teach people good discipline, good character. that is civil society. that's what charities and churches do. >> paul ryan and mitt romney say churches and charities are the only antidote to poverty. sister simone campbell degr disagrees, and she's next. another is ordering to vote for mitt romney. we'll read the letter where he admits sending it to his staff. and which tape is a better window into mitt romney's window for america, the denver debate or the 47% tape? ahead, my commentary on why this country can't afford to get fooled again. this is anna, her long day teaching the perfect swing begins with back pain and a choice. take advil, and maybe have to take up to four in a day. or take aleve, which can relieve pain all day with just two pills.
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kicking off another leg of their antipoverty tour. this time in the state of ohio. the organization has invited mitt romney and paul ryan as well as president obama and vice president biden to discuss the issue of poverty in cincinnati. so far, neither presidential ticket has accepted the invitation. in the meantime, paul ryan isn't backing down from his budget which would gut the nation's social safety net. he has proposed cutting billions from nutritional programs that would help the poor. ryan has credited his catholic faith for helping shape his proposals and says churches and charities should pick up the slack for the government. he didn't back down from that belief in an interview with a local abc affiliate in flint, michigan. >> the best thing to prevent violent crime is to bring opportunity in the inner cities. help teach people good discipline, good character, that is civil society. that's what charities and churches do to help one another
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make sure they realize the value in one another. >> but the truth is many charitable organizations are stretched to their limits. a study from the nonpartisan group bread for the world points out the flaws in ryan's plan. ryan's proposed cuts to the nation's food stamp program would mean every church in america would have to come up with approximately $50,000 dedicated to feeding people. not only that, they'd have to come up with $50,000 every year for the next ten years. would your church or house of worship be able to come up with that kind of money so the wealthy can get their tax breaks? joining me tonight is sister simone campbell, leader of the nuns on the bus. and executive director of network, a national catholic social justice lobby. sister, good to have you with us tonight. let's do the math, if we can, for just a moment. do you believe most churches have an extra $50,000 lying around to pick up the tab that
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ryan describes himself as a man of faith? how do we get through all of this? do the churches have the kind of money to follow the plan that he's putting forth? >> absolutely not. i mean, it's really shocking to think that he believes that churches can do this. what he doesn't know is how hard people are working right now, how much they depend on the food subsidies, just even to get food on family tables and how churches are stretched already in food pantries, feeding programs, all kinds of places already giving so much. this $50,000 for each house of worship would be an additional amount to what they have already raised. it's impossible. >> do people in the inner city need to be taught good discipline and good character. that's what paul ryan believes. >> i know. it's pretty shocking because he clearly has not been where i've been. every day in washington, d.c., i see the folks, the working poor,
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out early on the bus to get to their jobs, the folks that work late cleaning and janitors and the various office buildings. i see tremendous discipline. and i see an incredible desire to really make a go for their families. he just is out of touch. that's why we invited him to come to cincinnati and meet some of our people, but apparently they are not coming. >> speaking of out of touch, you told e.j. dionne that the president has gotten disconnected from the people he cares about. explain what you're talking about. you think the president is disconnected? does he need to reconnect? >> that's why we invited him to cincinnati tomorrow, but i think the debate last week evidence that he got really into his policy side when really the conversation needs to be about the people that are struggling in our society. tomorrow we're hosting one man from cleveland, wilbur hughes,
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who is raising six girls by himself. he's a single dad raising these girls, working hard, he's making ends meet. but it's really hard with a family and being a single parent, but he's so disciplined and so focused. and his girls are doing really well in school. >> why did you choose ohio? everybody knows how critical ohio is. why ohio? >> well, actually, it was the sisters here. we went through ohio in the original nuns on the bus, but what happened here was that the sisters said this is such partisan divide we need to lift up the 100%. we need to go on the road and let people know what the struggle is. i came to be supportive of my sisters. they created this nuns on bus ohio. >> do you think you're having an impact? >> absolutely. absolutely. people in the united states are standing up. they are feeling energized. we can talk about the real
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things in the nation, and talk to each other. it's a tremendous moment when we can talk about people in poverty, people in the middle class and not call names, not try to be fearful, not drive wedges between each other. this is for all of us. this is being we the people. >> sister simone campbell, thank you for joining us tonight on "the ed show." keep up the fabulous work. coming up, a multimillionaire ceo who's building himself the largest house in the united states of america tells his employees if president obama is reelected, you might not have a job. stay with us. ...what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students.
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welcome back to "the ed show". another day, another boss threatening to fire his employees if president obama is reelected. meet multimillionaire david seagull, ceo and founder of west gate resorts, the largest privately owned time share company in the world. good for him. he told reuters in july west gate is the most profitable it's ever been and he recently resumed construction on his 90,000 square foot mansion. modelled after the french palace of ver sigh. but yesterday, he told his employees, if obama wins, i'll have to let you go.
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gawker obtained the e-mail he sent out to 7,000 of his employees which he admits borrows heavily from a chain letter circulated before the 2008 elections and in it he says in spite of the challenges we have faced, the good news is the economy doesn't currently pose a threat to your job. what does threaten your job, however, is another four years of the same presidential administration. he goes on to argue that the obama administration has demonized the 1%, the true job creators and any increase in taxes would require him to lay off workers. you see, he just doesn't have enough money. and he ends with this thinly-vailed threat straight from the republican makers and takers textbook. "i can no longer support a system that penalized the productive and gives to the unproductive. my motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed and with it so will your opportunities.
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if that happens, you can find me in the caribbean sitting on a beach, under a palm tree, retired with no employees to worry about." hold it right there. he worries about his employees. is he alone? does he care? of course, he cares. but this man is greedy. he can't help himself. he can't help himself for how much he hates president obama. he says, i wish i could say this -- this is the only time david seagull has used his employees for pawns to advance his own political agenda, but it's not. he takes credit for george w. bush being elected in 2000. whenever i saw a negative article about al gore, put it in with the paychecks of my 8,000 employees. i had managers do a survey. if they liked bush, we made them register to vote, but not if they liked gore. on election day, we made sure everyone voting for bush got to the polls. i didn't know he would win by
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527 votes. afterward, we did a survey among the employees to find out who voted who wouldn't have otherwise. 1,000 of them said so. the haves and the have nots, where are we in america? this election is about that. tonight in our survey, i asked, who has the advantage in the race now? 77% said obama. 23% said mitt romney. coming up, mitt romney is trying to fool the american people by shaking the etch a sketch by line. tonight i'm calling the candidate out to set the record straight. my commentary about what the country would look like if this guy is in the oval office. i have a cold, and i took nyquil,
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there's an old saying in tennessee. i know it's in texas. it says fool me once, shame on you. we can't get fooled again. >> george w. bush famously said we can't get fooled again. i honestly thought i'd never see that sound byte again, at least in one of my broadcasts. but it fits right now. the question is, are we going to get fooled again? earlier we talked about the polls and mitt romney on the move. mitt romney spent 90 minutes on the stage lying about everything he claimed to stand for prior to the debate.
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he lied about his tax plan, he lied about his health care plan, he lied about medicare and medicaid and social security, he lied about deregulation, he lied about jobs, he lied about education, he lied about energy. think about this. after campaigning for 18 months on a tax plan for the job creators that will reduce their taxes 20% on personal income, cut capital gains taxes and business taxes, romney stood on stage with president obama and denied all of that. he told the american people that he really didn't have a plan, which my friends, is completely a 180. after saying it, every campaign stop for 18 months that he would repeal obama care on day one, he stood before the american people and said his plan would take care of those pre-existing conditions. shortly afterwards, after the debate, his campaign admitted, well, it would not. romney says his health care plan, which passed in massachusetts, would be good for
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states. but somehow when president obama passed the same plan designed to be available to the states, that's not good enough. romney says he will repeal obama care and replace it. although, he just does not deliver any of those details. he lied about medicare. he says his plan would impact those over 55, but that's a lie. repealing obama care will immediately cost those on medicare more for prescription drugs. for those under 55 years of age, he's going to give you a voucher and let you negotiate with insurance companies. ever negotiate with an insurance company? can you imagine negotiating when you're 85 years old and need a hip replacement? he lied about deregulating the bank industry. he lied when he said that we would become energy independent through more drilling? he lied when he said half of the green energy companies had gone bankrupt.
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he lied saying president obama's plan would kill 700,000 jobs. americans, we get the government we deserve. it's been six days since mitt romney stood on that stage with president obama and lied for 90 minutes. and currently, polling shows more americans believe him. here's the famous sound byte for you again. >> there's an old saying in tennessee that says fool me once, shame on you. we can't get fooled again. >> that sound byte has a different meaning to me now. i hope it does to you as well. this is mitt romney's america. the rich get richer at the expense of the middle class and the poor in this country. older americans are on their own when it comes to health care. poor americans are at the mercy